'The Grinder' Co-Creator on Showrunner Change: "Sometimes It Works, Sometimes It Doesn't"

Departed EP Greg Malins didn't quite mesh with creators Jarrad Paul and Andrew Mogel.
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The Grinder premieres on Fox Tuesday to a wave of good reviews and with two lead actors, Rob Lowe and Fred Savage, who are instantly recognizable.

That's more than a lot of new series this fall can say for themselves. However, the series has also gone through what a number of its fellow freshmen have — a behind-the-scenes shakeup.

In August, showrunner Greg Malins departed the show. "Slight creative differences" with creators Jarrad Paul and Andrew Mogel were cited at the time. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Paul explains a little more about what went down.

"I always wonder what that means also," Paul says of the standard "creative differences" citation when a producer exits a show. "Sometimes it's just a matter of, you're paired with people in kind of an arranged marriage. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't."

Malins, a TV veteran (Friends, How I Met Your Mother, Ground Floor) joined The Grinder after the pilot. Paul calls him "an amazing guy" but says the fit wasn't quite there.

"It's a tricky tone with this show, so I think if you weren't on the pilot, maybe, it's tough," Paul says. "And Andy and I wouldn't be good on some other shows. It's just a matter of really connecting creatively, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't."

Paul and Mogel both say the writing process continued apace in the time between Malins' exit and the hiring of Ben Wexler (The Comedians) as showrunner. Wexler has been on the job about three weeks, and Paul says, "He's been great. He's been very helpful."

The Grinder premieres Tuesday at 8:30 p.m. on Fox.

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