Lena Dunham on Woody Allen: Art Is Not How We Convict People of Crimes
Lena Dunham has already praised Dylan Farrow for her New York Times open letter claiming that Woody Allen sexually assaulted her a child, tweeting to her followers last month, "To share in this way is courageous, powerful and generous. Please read."
But most recently, she actively spoke out against Allen on Marc Maron's WTF podcast in an episode that aired Monday.
"In the latest Woody Allen debate I'm decidedly pro-Dylan Farrow and decidedly disgusted with Woody Allen's behavior. But for me, when people go through his work and comb through it for references to child molestation, that's not the f---ing point," she said as a segue from discussing the separation between a person and their work. "I'm not going to indict the work. I think that you can decide that you don't want to support the work of somebody who has molested a child. That's a completely appropriate choice.
"But going through it and saying, 'Look, he's told us in 57 ways that he rapes kids' -- that's not the thing. The thing is to look at the actual evidence that exists in the world, which I think strongly suggests that Woody Allen is in the wrong. But for me, the point is not to go through his one-act plays, looking for references to child molestation. Because I'm not comfortable living in a world where art is part of how we convict people of crimes."
She also added, "I mean for me, I haven't wanted to watch his movies for a long time, partially because of who I think he is and partially because I think they got really bad. I agree that looking at art and trying to basically decide who we can and can't support, it's dangerous."
When Maron observed that "bad people have done amazing things," she agreed and pointed out that "people who really believe Woody Allen is guilty have not felt comfortable saying that because they're so afraid to lose their connection to his work. And the thing is, I feel like people need to understand that you can hold two positions in your mind. You can know that someone's made work that's meaningful to you and also know that they have most likely molested their daughter. … I was so unimpressed by people's inability to think in less binary ways and to just experience the ambiguity that life is constantly offering up. … I'm nauseated with the person."
Listen to the full podcast here, with Dunham's Allen-related remarks beginning just after the 36-minute mark.