Kevin Smith is the quintessential indie filmmaker. After financing "Clerks" with his own checkbook, he went on to make movies that have inspired scores of fans — and pushed the buttons of almost as many watchdog groups. With "Zack and Miri Make a Porno," the Seth Rogen starrer about roommates who shoot a skin flick, Smith's latest comedy has a distinctly Judd Apatow-ian flavor. But he intends to follow it with his first drama project. We caught up with him at his Hollywood Hills home (complete with Ms. Pac-Man machine and foosball table) to see what he thinks about the state of indie film and why he doesn't resent Apatow.