Jennifer Lawrence Talks "Submissiveness," How She "Would Love to See Change" in Pay Gap
The actress also reflects on wrapping the 'Hunger Games' films and opens up about her breakup with Nicholas Hoult.
Diane Sawyer stopped by Good Morning America on Thursday to present a few minutes of her sit-down interview with Jennifer Lawrence. The full interview aired on Thursday's Nightline.
In the excerpt aired on GMA, Lawrence talked more about why she wrote her much-talked-about Lenny essay about her reaction to not being paid as much as her male American Hustle co-stars and the issue of income inequality.
"My question to myself was, 'Why am I not asking for it?' " said Lawrence of her reaction to the salary news. "I know that I've always kind of carried a habit of submissiveness with the idea that that makes me more likable."
On the issue of the general pay disparity between men and women, something she and other stars have talked about recently, Lawrence said, "I felt like I had to say something because we need to talk about it. On average, women are paid 21 percent less than men. We can ask for the same exact thing that men do, and we do face the reality that we do get judged more. It's just something that's intrinsic. I would love to see change."
In the full interview, Lawrence added, "I would just hope that there's no longer a separation or a difference of 'Oh, it's a female-driven movie.' Or, 'Oh my God, it's a blockbuster, but it was led by a woman!' Or, 'Wow that was a really tough call for a woman.'"
Lawrence also reflected on how she felt when she wrapped her final Hunger Games movie, which hits theaters on Nov. 20, and opened up about her breakup with Nicholas Hoult that occurred around the same time.
"When I wrapped The Hunger Games, I wrapped — these movies have been my life for so long, and they had to come first in everything," said Lawrence. "I was also in a relationship with somebody for five years, and we broke up around the same time that I wrapped those movies. Being 24 was this whole year of, 'Who am I without these movies? Who am I without this man?' "
The two women from Louisville, Ky., (Sawyer joked that the two of them grew up "a few years apart") spent time enjoying some Kentucky barbecue in Sawyer's kitchen and reflecting on Lawrence's childhood in Louisville. Lawrence showed off her cheerleading moves and admitted on camera that she just had bitten into a bone and needed to spit it out.
She also said she doesn't know if she'll ever get married and is "OK with that."
"I don't feel like I need anything to complete me. I love meeting people," she added, revealing, "I definitely want to be a mother."
Lawrence also taught Sawyer some of the archery skills she mastered as Katniss and, in additional excerpts posted on ABCNews.com, the two visited the spot in Union Square where Lawrence was discovered when she and her mom visited New York.
“My mom gave [the photographer we met] her number because we didn’t know that was potentially dangerous and creepy, and then he called and said modeling agencies wanted to meet with me,” said Lawrence. “And I had made up my mind in the cab ride, ‘Well, I’m only going to sign with modeling agencies if they’ll let me act,’ which came out of nowhere.”
And while she didn't go to high school because she was pursuing modeling and acting (she earned her GED), she really wanted people to think she was a student.
"This is so embarrassing, but I would dress up like I was in, like, private school when I was living in Santa Monica,” Lawrence told Sawyer. “I was 16, and I would put on high socks, and I was like, ‘Yeah, I go to school.’ … Because I just wanted to be a student.”
She also revealed how she likes "the business part" of being an actor.
"Controlling your stock, if you will, and being in control of that," explained Lawrence. "I love acting — that’s the only part of my job that I love — but all of it’s a business."
She also said she wants to direct someday and opened up about her fast friendship with Amy Schumer.
“I didn’t know Amy six months ago, and she brings something to my life that’s so special,” Lawrence told Sawyer. "We both have a kind of protection over each other. She’s older than me, so she has the natural kind of protectiveness that comes with just being older than somebody. I’ve been famous longer than she has, so I feel a certain protectiveness in that sense, and we both are incredibly blunt and opinionated."
Lawrence also told Sawyer that Schumer said she would pay her $100 if she called Sawyer "Di" throughout the whole interview. To find out if that actually happens, check out the full interview below.
Nov. 13, 7:42 a.m. This story has been updated with more information and video from Lawrence's full interview with Sawyer.